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2016-01-21 ACS: Russell Simmons
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JMOE: I get the Bill, Russell, and Richard Simmons confused whenever I hear their names.
The new strategy is to lead a person to racists waters and hope they drink so they fight the monkey-tard wars and don't notice Wallstreet, the healthcare company and big corps that are robbing the middle class - Poochie's Uncle

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That's quite a range of simmonses. Jy.
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No love for J.K.?

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Pseudoscience bullshit aside, it was quite an enjoyable listen.

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For me it's Gene. When I saw the show title, I was like, "The guy from KISS?"

EDIT: At least they're both from the music world.

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I was jogging to this and found it fairly interesting.

Gina does not say a single word until around the 30 minute mark, I think.

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I could never jog to that shit. You be cray cray.

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HowWouldIKnowThat wrote:Russell Simmons is a monk and a yogi :roll:

I agree that it's a little frustrating that Adam just plays along, but I understand his position. This constitutes a big booking for him, and if he's any more offensive than he already is, he's not going be able to get anyone. There is a black/menthols joke in the first couple minutes and I thought for a second that would be the end.


I'm not sure I ever heard Adam apologize for a joke. The worst part is that wasn't funny.

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Adam only tries in interviews with hot chicks, porn stars , A list celebrities, rightwing politicians and pundits and recently guys who have made lots of money in business. And Russell Simmons has made hundreds of millions and came from humble beginning, so adam wants to pick his brain to see if there is anything he can use for his own business ventures since he knows he cant get the fame or money Kimmels has and a career in Hollywood is not going to happen. So now what adams is doing is throwing the kitchen sink at the wall hoping something sticks, so he can go on cnbc and say I didn't make it Hollywood but I became a successful entrepreneur and made X million dollars selling mangria or whatever like P.diddy.

So you may dismiss all of what russel said because you disagree with his milk statement, but adam knows he has made millions in business and stated he will be buying his audiobook.

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Provigilant wrote:A lot of what he says about the food industry is true. The US government does subsidize the meat, dairy and agricultural industries, and corporations do put lots of additives in food to improve yield, reduce cost and increase profits.

Simmons is the first to admit there is no conspiracy behind it all. It's just the way the system works. There is a huge demand for food, and corporations lobby the government to pass laws that allow them to increase the supply. Food is just another product to be marketed and sold, and nutritional value is often overlooked if there is an opportunity to make money. For example, if Golden Corral can make an extra $3 for you to shovel a bunch of low grade crap into a styrofoam container and take it home, they will do it. If you become obese and get diabetes, there is another industry that profits from that.

The point is what can anyone do about it? This is the system we have, and there's a ton of people who need to eat. Simmons solution is to become a vegan, meditate and do yoga. He claims it is cheaper and easier, but even he slips every now and then. I was surprised he admitted he got high and ate bad food over New Year's. You have to give him some credit for being honest.

I thought the most chilling part of the interview was when he told his daughter that Oprah liked his book. Her response was,"Dad, Oprah is for the common people." This is a super-rich girl who skipped two grades and wants to run Goldman Sachs some day. She seems fully invested in the system.

How you describe the "system" is one of the most reasonable ways I've seen it articulated. There's no conspiracy - it's marketing, economics, logistics - it's the same as everything else. Public companies are always being pressured to deliver good financial results, and there are a lot of levers to [try and] get there. Less space between items on the warehouse conveyor (Walmart), machinery that can do a human's job much faster and more precisely with no salary or benefits (auto industry), buying your own shipping company to reduce shipping costs (Amazon Europe). But in the last decade or two, companies are finding that what's good for their financial performance isn't always aligned with what the consumer wants. Transparency/simplicity in ingredients and production, rejection of hormones and pesticides, choosing an "artisan" story over mass-production, worker treatment - some of these movements are legitimate; others evoke caveman superstition, but all have challenged the conventional "business-first" business model. No conspiracies, just a consumer that is more aware of and curious about the origin and impact of their transactions, and businesses that are having to adapt. Even impersonators are being called out; e.g., for "greenwashing," or Tito's Handmade Vodka for not really being handmade (artisan).

I worked for a food research company several years back. We were hired by the marketing arm of the dairy industry to understand the "journey" to veganism, which typically begins with vegetarianism (the dairy industry was understandably keeping an eye on this). We did ethnographies where we went into people's homes across the US, talked to them, looked in their refrigerators, got to know their media consumption, etc. We talked to vegans and vegetarians, and mein gott, the vegan community - while there are no doubt wonderful exceptions - were without a doubt the most deranged and conspiratorial group of people I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. We had a Ph.D. food scientist riding along who was familiar with the dairy industry, who would give us a full debrief on why 98% of the information these people shared was beyond lunacy - not that memorizing a universe of patently false information diminished their enthusiasm for sharing it even a little bit. I mean, it was like pre-printing press, this stuff. Beyond having an in-house scientist politely wait until we were back on the road to debunk everything we had just heard, the reason the vegan community's "truth" seems so incredible to me is because the paranoia is endemic; i.e., not just limited to food. These people, wild-eyed, were telling us who really knocked down the towers, telling us about the Bohemian Grove, about lizard people, urging us to listen to Alex Jones... truly a crowd after Art Bell's heart.
Uh, should we, uh, do a little, uh, news?

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your comparing a vegan to someone who believes in lizard people. Im far from vegan, but im just wondering why a person eating a plant based diet was such a concern and why the milk industry is so paranoid that they hired people like ph.d food scientist to travel across the country and go in people home and try to pry them for information on why they choose to eat a plant base diet. That sounds paranoid.

I do believe people go to far either way, I grew up probable drinking a gallon a milk every two days for years and have been on a atkins diet for several months at a time.

I think what most people are saying is the chemicals put in the food now a days for packaging and shelf life, that wont kill you that day ,but a culmination of these product over years will have health consequences in the long term.

So when it comes down to it, it is about how these chemicals that are in our food and how they interact with our biology in the short and long term.

So most of these food additives are about preservation and the short term food born illnesses that are bad PC for food companies like an ecoli outbreak, but the long term uses of these additives help prevent such outbreaks but when they interact with our biology may cause cancer ,obesity among a mired of health effects not known that pop years later and no direct connection to one cause or a build up over the years along each person diet and their genetics.

Not to mention the over use of antibiotics in the meat and dairy industry that are cause superbugs that are antibiotic resistant, while at the same time Big pharma is no longer investing in new antibiotics that fight these because their is no profit in spending billions in developing these drugs when you take it a week and your done, but hey if you ate to many hamburgers and hotdogs and your heart don't work as well as it used to you can take Lipitor for the rest of your life. with only a few side effects

•Cough
•difficulty with swallowing
•dizziness
•fast heartbeat
•fever
•hives
•itching
•muscle cramps, pain, stiffness, swelling, or weakness
•puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
•skin rash
•tightness in the chest
•unusual tiredness or weakness
•wheezing
Incidence not known •Blistering, peeling, or loosening of the skin
•chills
•dark-colored urine
•diarrhea
•joint pain
•large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, or sex organs
•red skin lesions, often with a purple center sore
•red, irritated eyes
•sore throat
•sores, ulcers, or white spots in the mouth or on the lips

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poochies uncle wrote:your comparing a vegan to someone who believes in lizard people.

No, I'm telling you that they were frequently the same people.

poochies uncle wrote:Im far from vegan, but im just wondering why a person eating a plant based diet was such a concern and why the milk industry is so paranoid that they hired people like ph.d food scientist to travel across the country and go in people home and try to pry them for information on why they choose to eat a plant base diet. That sounds paranoid.

No more than checking the rear view mirror in your car makes you paranoid.

As for the rest of your post, too many points to really address. A lot like the people we visited urging us to listen to Alex Jones.
Uh, should we, uh, do a little, uh, news?

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LOL your comparing
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3549599
Prolonged oral or parenteral administration of antibiotics has led to the development of resistant strains of microorganisms. Bacteria acquire drug resistance by mutation, conjugation and transduction. Oral antibiotics by a process of selection pressure facilitate the proliferation of resistant population of bacteria. Drug resistant bacteria are capable of transferring their resistance to drugs to other bacteria by the process of transferable drug resistance (TDR). This can lead to multiple resistance to a vast number of therapeutically useful antibiotics which will, therefore, become ineffective for treatment. TDR can occur between pathogenic organism, between organism of different species, such as E. coli, Salmonella and Shigella; and also between pathogenic and non-pathogenic organisms. Faecal contamination of meat during slaughter may result in the transfer of antibiotic resistant E. coli to the meat. In the human gut this E. coli could transfer resistance to other gut flora, namely E. coli or Salmonella. Antibiotic-resistant coliforms have been isolated from carcases, fresh and cooked meat, raw meat handlers and livestock handlers. Handling of raw market meat by buyers in Nigeria could also lead to contamination of meat with resistant microorganisms. Veterinary drugs are sold and used without much control in Nigeria. This practice may have created a population of resistant bacteria in the meat animals. The presence of antibiotic residues in meat, milk and their products pose potential health hazards for man. Allergic skin conditions, nausea, vomiting, anaphylactic shock and even death have resulted from the ingestion of residues. Cooking and freezing have minimal effect on residues. Resistance to antibiotics have been detected in food poisoning bacteria, namely Salmonella typhimurium, Staphylococcus aureus and Clostridium perfringens. Some epidemiological link has been established between S. typhimurium of calves and food poisoning in man. Judicious use of antibiotics, public education on the health risks of the promiscuous use of drugs in livestock production; and hygienic slaughter at the slaughter houses, will help to reduce bacterial drug resistance in man and animals


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The same exact right?

Global warming a myth too right?

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imchipdouglas wrote:
poochies uncle wrote:your comparing a vegan to someone who believes in lizard people.

No, I'm telling you that they were frequently the same people.

poochies uncle wrote:Im far from vegan, but im just wondering why a person eating a plant based diet was such a concern and why the milk industry is so paranoid that they hired people like ph.d food scientist to travel across the country and go in people home and try to pry them for information on why they choose to eat a plant base diet. That sounds paranoid.

No more than checking the rear view mirror in your car makes you paranoid.
It is not paranoid if you look in your rear view mirror , but if you get out and start looking through their car and ask where and why are they going then yes your paranoid

As for the rest of your post, too many points to really address. A lot like the people we visited urging us to listen to Alex Jones.

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Nope. Again, I'm telling you about a slew of real vegans whose homes (apartments, really) I was in, who were telling me about FOOD INC and Alex Jones and the towers and the Bush-Saudi Arabia connections and lizard people. No comparisons necessary - just real life experiences.
Uh, should we, uh, do a little, uh, news?

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