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"Old" Podcast vs. "New" Show Format
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:lol: like old times... people pissing and moaning about next to nothing.
good job, retards :up: [and i fucking hope there is some retarded rule about using the word "retard"]

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Numbers don't lie folks. The vast majority like the radio show format. The very vocal minority is just that - a minority. The poll is NOT confusing - it is very clearly worded. Just as clearly, the people who are voting for the radio show format see no need to post, because their reasons are so obvious. The radio show format is better. Period.
The interview show was boring and not funny. I downloaded all of them and tried to listen to most of them. There were very few that I made it all the way thru (Drew, Dameshek, Joe Rogan, "day and date" shows, etc). Mostly they were just painful. The radio show format I can listen to each one 2 or 3 times.
The old radio show was/is outstanding. I listen to one every day, after I listen to the day's new show. For 2010 I am listening to the 2006 shows again. Next year will be the 2007 shows, most of which I have not heard yet. After that it will be the 2008 shows again. Lather, rinse, repeat. I'll be listening to the old radio show for years to come. It is THAT good.
At night I listen to Loveline. Currently in March 2004. Titus is the guest. I'll be listening to Loveline for years to come also.
The old interview show? Already moved off the computers to DVDs. Gone and forgotten.
Good times.
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jjj262 wrote:Speaking of dead air, take a commercial break when the guest are shuffling in. Two and a half minutes of 'take a seat take a seat'...

Absolutely!
Throw on a Mangrate ad or something during this. Guests making their entrance may work on TV talk shows, but it simply doesn't work in the podcast format.
I don't know if a pre-taped ad in the middle of the show is the best answer, but it would save us from hearing them getting their mics on and greetings and all that.

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BlahBlahBlog wrote:Numbers don't lie folks.  The vast majority like the radio show format.  The very vocal minority is just that - a minority.  The poll is NOT confusing - it is very clearly worded.  Just as clearly, the people who are voting for the radio show format see no need to post, because their reasons are so obvious.  The radio show format is better.  Period.
The interview show was boring and not funny.  I downloaded all of them and tried to listen to most of them.  There were very few that I made it all the way thru (Drew, Dameshek, Joe Rogan, "day and date" shows, etc).  Mostly they were just painful.  The radio show format I can listen to each one 2 or 3 times.
The old radio show was/is outstanding.  I listen to one every day, after I listen to the day's new show.  For 2010 I am listening to the 2006 shows again.    Next year will be the 2007 shows, most of which I have not heard yet.  After that it will be the 2008 shows again.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  I'll be listening to the old radio show for years to come.  It is THAT good.
At night I listen to Loveline.  Currently in March 2004.  Titus is the guest.  I'll be listening to Loveline for years to come also.
The old interview show?  Already moved off the computers to DVDs.  Gone and forgotten.
Good times.

Well there you have it. The reasons are so obvious and anyone that disagrees is wrong. Clearly anyone who listens to the same podcast two or three times speaks for the majority of listeners.

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Im in that third that likes the old show better but that does not mean I do not like the new show. I think they could make some tweaks. I really think the show is becoming typical wacky morning radio, the exact kind of thing Ace used to make fun of in the Lightning Round, just throw in some traffic and weather. Obviously they are not going to go back to the ACP, once a week would be nice but Im not getting my hopes up. I wish they wouldnt break the news up into two segments and sandwich the guest in between. Sure having a guest sit in on the second half can give them something to talk about but more often it just ends up cutting the interview short and seems kind of awkward. I think it works best with other comedians or friends of the show that know how to jump in with a joke or different take on a story.
The day and date shows on the ACP seemed a lot more conversational and natural.
The title should be the Adam and Theresa show as she is more of a cohost than a sidekick. She could take a lesson from the way Andy Richter used to do his job on Late Night and only chime in during the interview with a quip or two, if at all, instead of trying to run the interview herself. If she is the cohost that is fine with me, I like her, but make that clear because if she is the sidekick she is overstepping her role and annoying people that tune in for Adam.
95 people is a tiny sampling of the audience but if it does represent the listeners in general than it looks like people prefer the radio style show. Still 30% is a huge chunk that like last years show better.
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I'm with SenorMysterioso. The old show was more interesting because of the intimacy between Ace and the guest. There were interviews that I thought would be terrible but turned out to be interesting. Of course there was the occasional flop (ie Birdemic). However, I will continue to listen to the new show.
For me, and probably only for me, the best balance would be Adam Corolla Show on Monday and Friday and the Adam Carolla Podcast Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. It would create a nice mix and break up the week. Plus the ACS has the 'everyday is exactly the same' feel of morning radio, whereas the ACP did not.
Regarding T and Bald Bryan. I think T can be funny, but she is too much of a yes woman and doesn't often have anything interesting to offer. Bald Bryan's drops are a bit too much for me, though, as stated before, when he does talk its usually interesting and relevant.
All in all I remain a big fan, but I yearn for the old format. It seemed like I was learning something from each guest, perhaps a new perspective or idea, now the show has no variation.
Perhaps it was hard to book guests for 1 hour interviews, but the guest quality hasn't gone up since the new format was introduced.
I really like the Fitzdog and WTF? layouts. Long format interviews are a great alternative to the 5 minute interviews available on TV, etc.
that was a long post...for me.

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I'm still holding off on the vote, but am now leaning toward the old format.
I listened to the first podcast with Dameshek in 09 and the first time he had Kevin Hench on. Never boring and often hilarious.
When Adam has someone on he knows well and is comfortable with the show goes really well.
He's more likely to talk about childhood, TV shows, snack food, porn, etc.
The less he talks about LA and politics the better.

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I guess there's no accounting for taste. Yes, the numbers don't lie. This is also why we have shows like Jerry Springer on t.v.
We are quickly realizing the scary proposition of 'Idiocracy'. The truly ignorant are breeding like rabbits and insisting on their Brawndo because it has electrolytes. As a society we are getting all kinds of more stupid.
The one on one interview was far more entertaining and compelling. I find it ironic that Carolla bitches so much about the entertainment industry holding steadfastly to outdated formulas that don't work and aren't funny, and yet has reverted back to precisely to such an uninteresting format.
The podcast has become sofa king we Todd did.

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Regarding the interviews, I prefer it when Adam is alone with the guest. T if often annoying and awkward and so are the drops. Adam seemed more free to go off on rants when it was just him and a guest.
Also, the guests are often uninteresting. The Gary and Dino show is relatively unknown, but they manage to get much, much more interesting guests than Adam. They talk to people like the double rainbow guy, LeBron's alleged father, and the disgraced NBA ref. The double rainbow guy was more interesting than any actor, singer, or comedian Adam has interviewed. Adam should be seeking interesting stories over famous entertainers.
But. . .
Overall I like the new format more. There's more variety and a bad guest can't ruin the whole show.
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MMAharaja wrote:Overall I like the new format more. There's more variety and a bad guest can't ruin the whole show.

A bad guest has never ruined an Adam Carolla Podcast. A host who doesn't know how to roll with a bad guest, has ruined many an Adam Carolla Podcast.
It's interesting how the most recent responses have become nostalgic for the old format, completely forgetting how unlistenable it became, and pretending the new show is not an improvement by default.

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Frank Grimes wrote:It's interesting how the most recent responses have become nostalgic for the old format, completely forgetting how unlistenable it became, and pretending the new show is not an improvement by default.

I agree with this. I suppose there's something natural and human about viewing the long, lost past through rose-colored glasses and judging the present to be lacking in comparison, but I still defy anyone to go back and listen to a random handful of podcast episodes from the Spring of this year, and not find many of them - aside from an odd little gem here and there - to be borderline awful.

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I think we all agree. The poll is irrelevant, they both suck almost equally. Let us continue to bitch vehemently about what is most important; the present.
Fuck Teresa. Seriously, she's awful, creatively bankrupt, has absolutely zero sense of humor, and is almost single-handedly holding back the show from ultimate success.

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Gauging the true feelings we have on this podcast can't be summed up simply by asking "Do you like A or B better?" So, this poll really is useless, thus the "hey, look at the nUmbas h8erz!" posts are retarded.
There are elements from the first version of the show that I liked and hated; the same can be said of the current version.
Teresa is an issue on this version, but I blame that on Adam. As someone had said earlier, a lot of times, the show sounds more like the Adam and Teresa show than the Adam show.
One of the main arguments people were making to bring her aboard, was that she could stop Adam's retarded, 20 minute ramblings--her results with that have been quite limited. (Again, Adam's fault, not hers)
The 2 news segments are unnecessary. The guests are often unnecessary because Adam just talks over them. The bits are the same played out bits from the show. Adam rehashes the same conversations with recurring guests. (Who cares about Roseanne????)
As MMA posted, they are really screwing the pooch when it comes to guests. I know it's good to get big name guests because it attracts sponsers and attention---but how about you mix it up with some actual interesting people??? (and also give them a chance to talk)
Also, how about doing more guest phone ins. (IM sure the guests would appreciate this as well, especially if theyre just going to have to sit across from an angry man screaming about traffic lights) Adam seems a lot less likely to be confrontational in person, so have guests call in instead.

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A few people have made the comment of how the Adam Carolla Podcast (old format) was just becoming "unlistenable" and the guests sucked. As a fan of that format versus what we are offered now, I have to agree. But I believe ACE had too much going on to focus on the Podcast. Too much going on outside of the Podcast and too much going on about the new, forthcoming change in format.
With that being said, take a look at 2009. Even early on. Guests like Bryan Cranston, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth MacFarlane (probably ACE's best podcast to date!), Tom Arnold, Chris and Ray (ACE's high school friends), etc. These are just a few. He had some great guests and not all of those great guests were even "A-Listers". Out of the gate, that format was smooth and satisfying. Sure, you got stuck with the occasional rehash of the "chicken-shit tickets" rant or the story about Ray's high-pressure ass water cannon. I've been listening to ACE since '97 or '98 so I've been hearing those same stories for 12 or 13 years now. But that's okay, because that's who he is.
My point is this - If you're going to judge Podcast versus Show based primarily on the guest list of last spring's Podcast run and the current run of the Show, then that's just fucked up. Why? Because his guest list now has NOT been that impressive, in my opinion.
So, Mr. Grimes and Holejack - If what you're saying is that the guest list of the Podcast is really what made that format suck, then I guess I'm just not going to understand that. I'm not saying that every guest on the Show has sucked, but broaden the view of guests that ACE had on over the last year and a half and not limit it to just one or two months towards the end. I think you'll find that 2009 was the year of podcasting for Adam Carolla. 2010 hasn't been all too great, in comparison.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Adam was never more at his best as he was when he and Dr. Drew ruled LoveLine. There was never a better format for ACE and has never been a better fit between two hosts. If you were able to listen to as much of it as I did during those days, then you're fortunate enough to remember and to understand where I'm coming from. If you didn't hear any of those old shows, or never got to see them on the road, then you did truly miss out. Aside from too many commercials, that was the perfect radio show.
Cheers
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For those arguing the old format had become unlistenable, I would say Adam had some really good episodes right before the format switch, with guests Michael Jai White, Steel Panther and Frangela.
I'm wondering since the show has been extended to 90 minutes (instead of the previous 45-60 min.) if they could break it up into essentially 2 shows. Lead in with the news with T and B for 45 minutes (plenty of time) and then go to strictly the one on one interview.
They could even spread out the bits of 'What can't Adam complain about', 'Blah, blah, blog', and 'Florida or Germany' for different days. And also give the guests a chance to have an in-depth interview with a little more free flow.
As it stands now, I fast forward the podcast at least 15-20 minutes into the show until I start to hear something from the guest. But I still wind up getting annoyed with Teresa's 'additions' to the conversation. I could really go the whole show without any added sound affects though.

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